very tolerant are voting democratic on these kind of issues. >> todd, i don't know the numbers or what you go by, but there are a lot of gay people in the country. aren't they going to be thrilled by the fact that the president has taken up this cause publicly again? >> i'm sure they will be. but to steve's point, they're largely voting for president obama anyway. the issue, i don't think when it comes to independent voters, that this is a gay rights issue, where people who either are -- >> it's an equality issue, todd. >> hold on. my point in bringing this up is that there are a lot of people right now who are hurting economically, and if they feel like, regardless of how they feel about this issue, if they feel like the administration is not focused on jobs and the economy, i think that's going to hurt democrats this fall. >> quick question, todd, are you for opening it up to open service, yourself, personally? >> well, you know, i'm not running for office, so my personal opinion doesn't matter -- >> no, but i want to know. i'm curious right now.